I could have
Been a millionaire.
I believe in that old saying no names no Packdrill.
In the mid 1980’s I was very friendly with a business couple man and wife ( B ) and
( E ) they were a wonderful couple which is more than could be said of their son he was an egoistical arrogant man I had a few dealings with him that in the end led to a complete non communication between us his father I found had given up the uneven task of helping him out while his mother continued to do so without her husbands knowledge.
My association with him began as a favour to his mother he needed the skills of a builder one who could plan a job of work and also carry it out I was that kind of builder although I had retired from work due to ill health.
He has not worked for months now this job has come up and he cannot find anyone to do the building work so unless you help him he will have to let the work go.
Certainly ( E ) I will give him a hand for a week or two was my reply to his mothers plea for my help If only I had known what I was letting myself in for I would have not been so ready to offer my services I would have run a mile.
The first job we did together went ok for all his faults and lack of skills in the social side of life he was a craftsman who knew his job but totally lacked any skill at business or management the end of that job should have warned me but I was aglow with what I had achieved in that work I had lost none of my skills and had always been proud of any job I had finished this work was no exception.
The manager of the plant approached us when he got word that the work was finished we took him on a tour of inspection before leaving he said call into the office before you go as I might be able to pay you off tonight as long as you can give me your invoice or if you like anytime tomorrow will suit me.
I stood staring at ( F ) he had just dropped a bombshell what do you think we should charge him for the work I had been asked what the hell I replied when I was able to speak didn’t you give him an estimate before we started.
Well I told him it would cost about £xxxxx or thereabout how close are we to your estimate I asked well we are about £xxxx over spend it was getting worse by the minute how much exactly give me the receipts and I will try to work it out I don’t bother keeping receipts that way the tax man can get to you was his reply.
I worked all night on the figures trying to get a balance with what he owed for the materials our time and a percentage as a profit margin I had more at stake than just wages as I had arranged with the building supplies company for the credit I could end up being responsible for them getting paid.
I had never been in this situation before forward planning was my middle name this was a cock up from start to finish I had been told that he had run his own business warning bells started ringing why had he not been able to employ a working builder.
Come the morning I had worked out an invoice I had to cut the profit margin out completely and even then the invoice was far in excess of ( F’s ) verbal estimate now that was the thing I hoped would save us a verbal estimate the manager had nothing in writing.
We sat in the office and I presented our invoice this is a lot more than we originally agreed to the manager finished reading the invoice well the reason for that is if you look on page two you will see I droned on and on going over the items in the invoice page by page claiming we had to put in a better quality item than was first quoted for extra work involved to make parts of the job safer to work on or in.
At last I finished my desperate bluff on the outside a keen business man but on the inside sweating it out yes I can see where the extra came in and thank you for a job well done now I want you to do another job on our Swansea plant ok I said we will submit an Itemised estimate for you by next weekend we can start the week after.
In the van driving home ( F ) was elated wow this will see me through for a while he said and we have that other job to do for him count me out I said I cannot work for you I only did this to get you back on your feet I will do the estimate for you but that’s all it also rankled that I had been put into a position of bluffing that manager that was not the way things where done we were coming away with bare wages no profit nothing to celebrate .
We were passing a trading site ( F ) pointed to a large shed he owes me money for the last job I did for him why have you not been paid well I stopped doing work for him until he paid me he said turn round we will go in and get your money reluctantly ( F ) turned round we entered the compound and I got out come on I called get a move on very slowly ( F ) got out of the car a guy came out of the big shed yea what can I do for you he called.
Hi there we have called to see why you have not settled our account oh who are you I am the new manager so have not caught up with things yet come into the office we all went into his office now who did you say you where and how much do we owe
( F )told him the details and the guy looked through the files oh yes but this was last September this was now August almost a year had gone by.
Yes we had a problem with our records on computer had a virus the glib lie rolled off my tongue we had to go through all our written records to put them back on computer we sent you a letter of explanation then our invoice at the beginning of the year I am sorry I do not have any letter or invoice from you on file .
You can see you owe us the account and that the account has not been paid we were back in the van driving towards home we were not only richer by our visit but had signed up for some more work the particular skills of ( F ) were much in demand.
The following day ( E ) telephoned can you help him out for a few weeks as manager for these jobs he has to do I thought long and hard for I really did not want to do it I was retired my health was still bad but I agreed I employed two men they did the physical work I just kept an eye on things.
A few months had gone by since I had finished working for ( F ) as his wife had started to keep the books one of the men I employed acted as foreman so I was not needed the telephone rang can you help me out you know I have a shop yea I replied guardedly I need a lift to Llanelli.
I knew as I was signing the cheque this was a bad idea we had got to the store but
(F ) had said that he had forgotten his money so had asked me for a loan to pay for this essential stock over the next couple of days he ducked and dived I was just in time stopping my cheque that led to all sorts of problems but at least I did not lose my money.
( E ) had telephoned the night before can you help ( F ) to move his stock to a new shop sure I will I replied but why is he moving again I had heard he was on the move frequently alarm bells should have been ringing but I trusted ( E ) the new shop turned out to be a recently vacated undertakers embalming parlour and we never could get rid of the smell of the fluid this is where I first had the smell of the money we could have made.
Three weeks had gone by when ( F ) came to the house I have a deal for you he told me I listened and it really was a good deal one that needed checking on but could make a lot pf money I checked and decided I would go in.
We were to sell products he had a guy called ( S ) who had experience in the product and its sale basically I would put up the bond required ( F ) would supply the premises his shop and ( S ) would put in his time and knowledge selling the product the town had no outlet for this product we would have a monopoly.
( F ) invited us all to dinner in a hotel we sat round the table the three of us and our wives we laid the plans for the future it was going to be a success we could not fail if we all pulled together by next year we would be wealthy.
( S ) and I started the next day doing the rounds of the suppliers of our products he was well known so we had no difficulty we even arranged that we could start trading the very next day they trusted us as my appointment with the solicitor we had chosen to set up everything legally between the three of us was not until the following Monday.
I had a good feeling about this ( S ) I saw was well liked and trusted by our suppliers they had supplied us with a van full of advertising material we installed all this material around the shop it looked great.
From day one customers poured in we sold and sold we did not have to carry any stock as we had a same day delivery deal with the suppliers we supplied the orders they supplied and delivered the goods all was done by telephone.
I had cancelled two appointments with the solicitor as ( F ) was missing we could not get hold of him two weeks had gone by and we had not officially set up the business simply because he was not to be found I called into the shop boy am I glad to see you came from ( S ) two guys called in an told me that we had no right to trade from this shop as we had not got permission hell not again I thought.
I sat with the two guys they had done ( F ) a favour by letting him store his goods in the premises not to trade from there but it was not all bad as I came to an agreement with them about leasing the premises when we finally set up business legally.
I had a sack full of money at my home the results of our first couple of weeks trading I had been unable to bank it as we had not set up a trading bank account in fact I was getting pretty nervous we were trading illegally our suppliers thought we were a business but we had not set up the company every time I made arrangements to sign up ( F ) would not turn up everything we had set up so far was in our three names.
( S ) and I were being pressured from different people we had a talk this wont do we cannot go on like this we were victims of our success money was pouring in I spoke to ( F ) last night on the phone he rang me and told me to sign up the company but keep his name out of it but he still wanted a share I told ( S ) that I was not happy with the way things had gone with ( F ) and I did not like the Idea of having a partner like (F ) we decided to cut him out more bad news was to follow we were told by ( F ) that he had sorted out the change of use of the premises with the planning dept of the council and that everything was ok not so we had a visit from a council employee telling us that we had to stop trading from these premises as we had not got any planning permission that would take months to get enough was enough as far as I was concerned we ceased trading I paid off all our suppliers in cash paid the two guys who owned the premises from our sack split the rest three ways for we had not yet told (F ) that we were going on our own events had overtaken us a couple of months later I saw that a shop just like ours opened in the town he runs around in a big car lives in the best area of Swansea I wished him the best of luck there could have been I.
Did I ever learn NO ( F ) telephoned he was in a panic can you come down and give me some advice sure against the advice of my wife I went to see him.
I have been given a contract he told me that some months ago he had applied for a contract to a board who had been set up by the unions to help redundant craftsmen
( F ) came into this scheme so what’s the problem I asked I need someone to sort out the estimates ok what’s the job I asked I listened and was convinced I was being given Bullshit this job was worth millions the phone rang and ( F ) answered it here talk to my partner he said into the phone he handed the telephone to me I was amazed what the hell is the matter with you I asked ( F ) keeping one hand over the mike of the phone it’s the guy from the contract he wants an answer tonight .
Once again I was stuck I had little or no information other than the Bullshit he had told me my instinct was to get the hell out of there but foolishly I put the phone to my ear Hi there we were just discussing some of the points you gave my partner can you go over them again with me certainly came back the reply and I was told that ( F ) had indeed been given this contract under the scheme and that all what was required of us tonight was a rough estimate to put to the board this in no way would be binding as we would be given time to put in a proper estimate anyway he gave me details I could not believe I was hearing this ok so what shall I put before the meeting tomorrow he finally asked once again I was flying without a plane you do realise I spoke up that this will have to be estimated in phases I was searching for numbers to give him a verbal estimate and you do realize that until we quantify a proper estimate we can only give you a vague estimate that’s all that is required at this time came back the reply ok I took a deep breath eight Million the first phase ok that’s fine that is the figure I will put before the meeting tomorrow I look forwards to receiving your written estimate how many others are bidding for this contract I asked no one he replied under the scheme as long as you qualify the contract is awarded to your company.
I sat staring at ( F ) I was seduced by the thought that I could easily become a millionaire we made plans in the cold light of day after a poor nights sleep I realised that there was no way we could take this on by ourselves we needed professional help I telephoned around and had an appointment with a company arranged .
We were accompanied by his father ( B ) when we went to the appointment and as soon as we were shown into the outer office I saw that one of the company directors was an old boyhood friend of mine I had not seen in twenty years we showed them the plans and detailed description of the job we had received from the scheme committee Wow this is bigger than we have had on our books for a few years we were told I asked their advice on the best route to take at the end of a long discussion a plan was formed they knew and I knew it was too big for us but it was not too big for them to take on they made a suggestion that they would take on the contract but that it would have to be in their name for legal and practical reasons we would be subcontracted to do the work that we were qualified to do or at least what ( F ) was specialised in I would also have an input the net result was that we would all benefit from this contract my initial verbal estimate over the phone was well short for phase one but that did not matter my old friend said that financing a contract like this the way it was set up would not be a problem at the end of the day the government was funding it so we would meet no obstacles and anyway no matter what happened they would be financing the whole thing we would have to find no capital at all.
Did I say no Obstacle we had a big one right there in that office (F ) that contract is in the name of my firm and it is staying in the name of my firm he spoke up he had sat there throughout the meeting not saying much and now he drops his bombshell nobody else is taking that contract away from me he stood up and walked out we all stood staring at his departing figure in silence.
Ok I will get back to you we will have a talk with him we talked for two weeks and got nowhere his parents myself his wife we all failed to talk him into going along with the deal then his mother died his father moved in with his sister that was that I gave up the way the scheme was set up the contract was his we could not touch it without his say so but I often dream of those lost chances of making millions.
Over time I found out a lot about (F )
He was so stupid in business matters all the things he had pulled on us was because he did not want to leave tracks to himself for his creditors to catch up with him eventually they did they took all that his mother had left him house shop premises his father died then I lost all contact with him. Thank god.
One might ask the question was I naïve or even stupid in my dealings with him but to be a judge one had to be there to listen to what we were offered.
In the first place I helped at the request of a dear friend but my subsequent actions where ruled by greed one had to hear what was on offer and see what could have been made of the situation we found ourselves in no one could judge against me more harshly than myself for all that I had learned in business over the years went out the window when big money was on offer.
Been a millionaire.
I believe in that old saying no names no Packdrill.
In the mid 1980’s I was very friendly with a business couple man and wife ( B ) and
( E ) they were a wonderful couple which is more than could be said of their son he was an egoistical arrogant man I had a few dealings with him that in the end led to a complete non communication between us his father I found had given up the uneven task of helping him out while his mother continued to do so without her husbands knowledge.
My association with him began as a favour to his mother he needed the skills of a builder one who could plan a job of work and also carry it out I was that kind of builder although I had retired from work due to ill health.
He has not worked for months now this job has come up and he cannot find anyone to do the building work so unless you help him he will have to let the work go.
Certainly ( E ) I will give him a hand for a week or two was my reply to his mothers plea for my help If only I had known what I was letting myself in for I would have not been so ready to offer my services I would have run a mile.
The first job we did together went ok for all his faults and lack of skills in the social side of life he was a craftsman who knew his job but totally lacked any skill at business or management the end of that job should have warned me but I was aglow with what I had achieved in that work I had lost none of my skills and had always been proud of any job I had finished this work was no exception.
The manager of the plant approached us when he got word that the work was finished we took him on a tour of inspection before leaving he said call into the office before you go as I might be able to pay you off tonight as long as you can give me your invoice or if you like anytime tomorrow will suit me.
I stood staring at ( F ) he had just dropped a bombshell what do you think we should charge him for the work I had been asked what the hell I replied when I was able to speak didn’t you give him an estimate before we started.
Well I told him it would cost about £xxxxx or thereabout how close are we to your estimate I asked well we are about £xxxx over spend it was getting worse by the minute how much exactly give me the receipts and I will try to work it out I don’t bother keeping receipts that way the tax man can get to you was his reply.
I worked all night on the figures trying to get a balance with what he owed for the materials our time and a percentage as a profit margin I had more at stake than just wages as I had arranged with the building supplies company for the credit I could end up being responsible for them getting paid.
I had never been in this situation before forward planning was my middle name this was a cock up from start to finish I had been told that he had run his own business warning bells started ringing why had he not been able to employ a working builder.
Come the morning I had worked out an invoice I had to cut the profit margin out completely and even then the invoice was far in excess of ( F’s ) verbal estimate now that was the thing I hoped would save us a verbal estimate the manager had nothing in writing.
We sat in the office and I presented our invoice this is a lot more than we originally agreed to the manager finished reading the invoice well the reason for that is if you look on page two you will see I droned on and on going over the items in the invoice page by page claiming we had to put in a better quality item than was first quoted for extra work involved to make parts of the job safer to work on or in.
At last I finished my desperate bluff on the outside a keen business man but on the inside sweating it out yes I can see where the extra came in and thank you for a job well done now I want you to do another job on our Swansea plant ok I said we will submit an Itemised estimate for you by next weekend we can start the week after.
In the van driving home ( F ) was elated wow this will see me through for a while he said and we have that other job to do for him count me out I said I cannot work for you I only did this to get you back on your feet I will do the estimate for you but that’s all it also rankled that I had been put into a position of bluffing that manager that was not the way things where done we were coming away with bare wages no profit nothing to celebrate .
We were passing a trading site ( F ) pointed to a large shed he owes me money for the last job I did for him why have you not been paid well I stopped doing work for him until he paid me he said turn round we will go in and get your money reluctantly ( F ) turned round we entered the compound and I got out come on I called get a move on very slowly ( F ) got out of the car a guy came out of the big shed yea what can I do for you he called.
Hi there we have called to see why you have not settled our account oh who are you I am the new manager so have not caught up with things yet come into the office we all went into his office now who did you say you where and how much do we owe
( F )told him the details and the guy looked through the files oh yes but this was last September this was now August almost a year had gone by.
Yes we had a problem with our records on computer had a virus the glib lie rolled off my tongue we had to go through all our written records to put them back on computer we sent you a letter of explanation then our invoice at the beginning of the year I am sorry I do not have any letter or invoice from you on file .
You can see you owe us the account and that the account has not been paid we were back in the van driving towards home we were not only richer by our visit but had signed up for some more work the particular skills of ( F ) were much in demand.
The following day ( E ) telephoned can you help him out for a few weeks as manager for these jobs he has to do I thought long and hard for I really did not want to do it I was retired my health was still bad but I agreed I employed two men they did the physical work I just kept an eye on things.
A few months had gone by since I had finished working for ( F ) as his wife had started to keep the books one of the men I employed acted as foreman so I was not needed the telephone rang can you help me out you know I have a shop yea I replied guardedly I need a lift to Llanelli.
I knew as I was signing the cheque this was a bad idea we had got to the store but
(F ) had said that he had forgotten his money so had asked me for a loan to pay for this essential stock over the next couple of days he ducked and dived I was just in time stopping my cheque that led to all sorts of problems but at least I did not lose my money.
( E ) had telephoned the night before can you help ( F ) to move his stock to a new shop sure I will I replied but why is he moving again I had heard he was on the move frequently alarm bells should have been ringing but I trusted ( E ) the new shop turned out to be a recently vacated undertakers embalming parlour and we never could get rid of the smell of the fluid this is where I first had the smell of the money we could have made.
Three weeks had gone by when ( F ) came to the house I have a deal for you he told me I listened and it really was a good deal one that needed checking on but could make a lot pf money I checked and decided I would go in.
We were to sell products he had a guy called ( S ) who had experience in the product and its sale basically I would put up the bond required ( F ) would supply the premises his shop and ( S ) would put in his time and knowledge selling the product the town had no outlet for this product we would have a monopoly.
( F ) invited us all to dinner in a hotel we sat round the table the three of us and our wives we laid the plans for the future it was going to be a success we could not fail if we all pulled together by next year we would be wealthy.
( S ) and I started the next day doing the rounds of the suppliers of our products he was well known so we had no difficulty we even arranged that we could start trading the very next day they trusted us as my appointment with the solicitor we had chosen to set up everything legally between the three of us was not until the following Monday.
I had a good feeling about this ( S ) I saw was well liked and trusted by our suppliers they had supplied us with a van full of advertising material we installed all this material around the shop it looked great.
From day one customers poured in we sold and sold we did not have to carry any stock as we had a same day delivery deal with the suppliers we supplied the orders they supplied and delivered the goods all was done by telephone.
I had cancelled two appointments with the solicitor as ( F ) was missing we could not get hold of him two weeks had gone by and we had not officially set up the business simply because he was not to be found I called into the shop boy am I glad to see you came from ( S ) two guys called in an told me that we had no right to trade from this shop as we had not got permission hell not again I thought.
I sat with the two guys they had done ( F ) a favour by letting him store his goods in the premises not to trade from there but it was not all bad as I came to an agreement with them about leasing the premises when we finally set up business legally.
I had a sack full of money at my home the results of our first couple of weeks trading I had been unable to bank it as we had not set up a trading bank account in fact I was getting pretty nervous we were trading illegally our suppliers thought we were a business but we had not set up the company every time I made arrangements to sign up ( F ) would not turn up everything we had set up so far was in our three names.
( S ) and I were being pressured from different people we had a talk this wont do we cannot go on like this we were victims of our success money was pouring in I spoke to ( F ) last night on the phone he rang me and told me to sign up the company but keep his name out of it but he still wanted a share I told ( S ) that I was not happy with the way things had gone with ( F ) and I did not like the Idea of having a partner like (F ) we decided to cut him out more bad news was to follow we were told by ( F ) that he had sorted out the change of use of the premises with the planning dept of the council and that everything was ok not so we had a visit from a council employee telling us that we had to stop trading from these premises as we had not got any planning permission that would take months to get enough was enough as far as I was concerned we ceased trading I paid off all our suppliers in cash paid the two guys who owned the premises from our sack split the rest three ways for we had not yet told (F ) that we were going on our own events had overtaken us a couple of months later I saw that a shop just like ours opened in the town he runs around in a big car lives in the best area of Swansea I wished him the best of luck there could have been I.
Did I ever learn NO ( F ) telephoned he was in a panic can you come down and give me some advice sure against the advice of my wife I went to see him.
I have been given a contract he told me that some months ago he had applied for a contract to a board who had been set up by the unions to help redundant craftsmen
( F ) came into this scheme so what’s the problem I asked I need someone to sort out the estimates ok what’s the job I asked I listened and was convinced I was being given Bullshit this job was worth millions the phone rang and ( F ) answered it here talk to my partner he said into the phone he handed the telephone to me I was amazed what the hell is the matter with you I asked ( F ) keeping one hand over the mike of the phone it’s the guy from the contract he wants an answer tonight .
Once again I was stuck I had little or no information other than the Bullshit he had told me my instinct was to get the hell out of there but foolishly I put the phone to my ear Hi there we were just discussing some of the points you gave my partner can you go over them again with me certainly came back the reply and I was told that ( F ) had indeed been given this contract under the scheme and that all what was required of us tonight was a rough estimate to put to the board this in no way would be binding as we would be given time to put in a proper estimate anyway he gave me details I could not believe I was hearing this ok so what shall I put before the meeting tomorrow he finally asked once again I was flying without a plane you do realise I spoke up that this will have to be estimated in phases I was searching for numbers to give him a verbal estimate and you do realize that until we quantify a proper estimate we can only give you a vague estimate that’s all that is required at this time came back the reply ok I took a deep breath eight Million the first phase ok that’s fine that is the figure I will put before the meeting tomorrow I look forwards to receiving your written estimate how many others are bidding for this contract I asked no one he replied under the scheme as long as you qualify the contract is awarded to your company.
I sat staring at ( F ) I was seduced by the thought that I could easily become a millionaire we made plans in the cold light of day after a poor nights sleep I realised that there was no way we could take this on by ourselves we needed professional help I telephoned around and had an appointment with a company arranged .
We were accompanied by his father ( B ) when we went to the appointment and as soon as we were shown into the outer office I saw that one of the company directors was an old boyhood friend of mine I had not seen in twenty years we showed them the plans and detailed description of the job we had received from the scheme committee Wow this is bigger than we have had on our books for a few years we were told I asked their advice on the best route to take at the end of a long discussion a plan was formed they knew and I knew it was too big for us but it was not too big for them to take on they made a suggestion that they would take on the contract but that it would have to be in their name for legal and practical reasons we would be subcontracted to do the work that we were qualified to do or at least what ( F ) was specialised in I would also have an input the net result was that we would all benefit from this contract my initial verbal estimate over the phone was well short for phase one but that did not matter my old friend said that financing a contract like this the way it was set up would not be a problem at the end of the day the government was funding it so we would meet no obstacles and anyway no matter what happened they would be financing the whole thing we would have to find no capital at all.
Did I say no Obstacle we had a big one right there in that office (F ) that contract is in the name of my firm and it is staying in the name of my firm he spoke up he had sat there throughout the meeting not saying much and now he drops his bombshell nobody else is taking that contract away from me he stood up and walked out we all stood staring at his departing figure in silence.
Ok I will get back to you we will have a talk with him we talked for two weeks and got nowhere his parents myself his wife we all failed to talk him into going along with the deal then his mother died his father moved in with his sister that was that I gave up the way the scheme was set up the contract was his we could not touch it without his say so but I often dream of those lost chances of making millions.
Over time I found out a lot about (F )
He was so stupid in business matters all the things he had pulled on us was because he did not want to leave tracks to himself for his creditors to catch up with him eventually they did they took all that his mother had left him house shop premises his father died then I lost all contact with him. Thank god.
One might ask the question was I naïve or even stupid in my dealings with him but to be a judge one had to be there to listen to what we were offered.
In the first place I helped at the request of a dear friend but my subsequent actions where ruled by greed one had to hear what was on offer and see what could have been made of the situation we found ourselves in no one could judge against me more harshly than myself for all that I had learned in business over the years went out the window when big money was on offer.
